1 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:05,500 Start the clock. 2 00:00:55,470 --> 00:00:57,050 I know, I know, I know. 3 00:00:57,250 --> 00:01:00,370 Thank you. 4 00:01:01,270 --> 00:01:02,870 I love you, too. 5 00:01:03,290 --> 00:01:04,489 You specifically. 6 00:01:05,030 --> 00:01:11,070 Okay. Okay, I know. I know why L .A. is excited today, because the World Cup is 7 00:01:11,070 --> 00:01:13,890 coming here next week. Oh, my God. 8 00:01:15,930 --> 00:01:17,290 This is soccer, right? 9 00:01:18,540 --> 00:01:19,920 No, I don't know anything about soccer. 10 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,200 Everybody's so excited. All I know about this is that it's soccer, and a lot of 11 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:31,020 countries come, and it takes a long time, apparently, to play these games. 12 00:01:31,020 --> 00:01:35,020 days, we will know the winner. Oh, no, that's the mayor of L .A. I'm sorry. 13 00:01:37,100 --> 00:01:38,100 Oh, yeah. 14 00:01:38,380 --> 00:01:39,940 Oh, it's California. 15 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,220 What a fucked -up state this is. 16 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,960 But apparently the two finalists are going to be Karen Bass, the mayor, and 17 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,800 Spencer Pratt, the reality star. 18 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,600 Oh, look at that. 19 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,580 So they are going to be in a runoff. I gave the edge to Karen Bass because who 20 00:02:00,580 --> 00:02:01,960 knows more about running off? 21 00:02:02,540 --> 00:02:04,440 Oh, we did. 22 00:02:08,820 --> 00:02:13,520 And Spencer, oh boy, I had him on my podcast. 23 00:02:15,100 --> 00:02:19,700 It's like a Jason Statham movie with this guy. It's like, you burned down my 24 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:21,240 house, now I'm coming for you. 25 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,740 And he's very, oh, quality of life issues, very concerned about the 26 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,420 who he always calls naked homeless drug addicts. 27 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,700 And they don't like that term. They prefer former child actors. 28 00:02:45,270 --> 00:02:49,150 We also had the primary for governor here, the leading candidate, Xavier 29 00:02:49,150 --> 00:02:50,150 Becerra. 30 00:02:51,690 --> 00:02:57,810 That is the exact kind of enthusiasm that he... 31 00:02:57,810 --> 00:03:03,190 No, he won because he's the closest name on the ballot to fuck ice. 32 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,860 Also, you know who was on the ballot? Eric Swalwell was still on the ballot 33 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:15,620 got 19 ,000 votes. 34 00:03:18,620 --> 00:03:22,300 Who are these people? People who opened a dick pic and liked it? 35 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,200 Oh. 36 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:28,680 Yeah. 37 00:03:29,780 --> 00:03:32,320 Democrats. They have another sex creep problem. 38 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:35,400 Have you seen this guy, Graham Plattner, up in Maine? 39 00:03:36,060 --> 00:03:38,300 They're big hope to take the Senate, the Democrats. 40 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,560 But Graham Platner, he's a lot. 41 00:03:42,580 --> 00:03:46,260 You know, he's got a Nazi tattoo. We don't know about that. Maybe it was just 42 00:03:46,260 --> 00:03:47,520 drunk. He didn't know it was whatever. 43 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,200 But a lot of stuff. Now stuff about, you know, he definitely was texting other 44 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,980 women outside of his marriage. Now some of the girlfriends are coming forward. 45 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:02,260 One of them says he used to watch TV while he was sharpening his axe. 46 00:04:05,180 --> 00:04:06,400 Could cost him. 47 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,620 women and their vote, but he did win over Stephen King. 48 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,360 You know, it's Maine. It's a small state. You gotta... 49 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:21,220 Apparently, Graham Platner, one of the girlfriends said one 50 00:04:21,220 --> 00:04:25,480 of his fantasies was how heroic he would be if there was a home invader. 51 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:31,580 Problem is how he wanted to be heroic with the home invader, which was by 52 00:04:31,580 --> 00:04:32,580 him. 53 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,700 I'm just reporting people. 54 00:04:37,220 --> 00:04:41,500 But not in a gay way. He emphasized that. Not in a gay way. 55 00:04:41,820 --> 00:04:46,180 Just in a regular, this is what happens to a guy who busts into my house way. 56 00:04:49,860 --> 00:04:50,860 Well, 57 00:04:52,220 --> 00:04:59,180 you know, that's politics, okay? I mean, say what you want. 58 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,420 It's not soft on crime. 59 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,020 I would say, doesn't anybody want to win a race? 60 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:17,880 Both parties. I mean, you know, this week, Jill Biden, have you seen that? 61 00:05:18,100 --> 00:05:20,520 She needs to have a book out, Jill Biden. 62 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,360 She went on, said she thought Joe was having a stroke during the debate. 63 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,120 Didn't mention it at the time. 64 00:05:30,420 --> 00:05:34,960 Went on The View and admitted she thought, no, Joe couldn't have served 65 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,140 term. They said, really? She said, no, not from what I know now. Who knew? 66 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,060 Yes. Other than everyone, no one. 67 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:54,340 Doesn't anyone want to win? 68 00:05:54,860 --> 00:05:59,620 I mean, the other side, Trump keeps pitching off people so badly, even the 69 00:05:59,620 --> 00:06:01,420 Republicans are standing up to him now. 70 00:06:08,300 --> 00:06:10,080 They figure, hey, it worked for the Iranians. 71 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:18,900 Well, you know... I can always tell 72 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:22,580 when the president is in a bad mood because he starts tweeting about me. 73 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:28,360 Look, I feel it's an honor always to be in his tweets, even when they're bad, 74 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,440 and they're always bad. 75 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,740 This week he said I was low -ratings Bill Maher with his fake laughing 76 00:06:52,810 --> 00:06:58,630 First of all, low ratings. Yours is 35%. And... 77 00:06:58,630 --> 00:07:04,450 Fake? Fake laughing machine? Can we get a shot of our audience? 78 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,080 I know he's in a foul mood. Did you see the phone call he had with Prime 79 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,440 Minister Netanyahu of Israel? Wow. The language. He didn't even deny it. He 80 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,780 to Netanyahu, you're fucking crazy. 81 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,560 You'd be in prison if it wasn't for you. I'm saving your ass and everybody hates 82 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:39,560 you. 83 00:07:39,580 --> 00:07:41,340 And your laughing machine is fake. 84 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,040 He said all that. But, hey. 85 00:07:48,660 --> 00:07:54,160 Hey, it's... Let's not forget, it is the beginning of Pride Month, or as... 86 00:07:58,489 --> 00:08:04,430 As Lindsey Graham calls it, why is everybody looking at me, Mom? 87 00:08:06,010 --> 00:08:12,990 But, you know, look, I've got to say, usually Pride Month is just fun, but 88 00:08:12,990 --> 00:08:16,510 is news this year. This is serious. There is disturbing polling that the 89 00:08:16,510 --> 00:08:20,930 acceptance of gay people in this country on all levels is regressing among 90 00:08:20,930 --> 00:08:26,030 Republicans. One of their congresspeople, Andy Ogles, How's that 91 00:08:26,030 --> 00:08:27,030 name? 92 00:08:27,990 --> 00:08:32,789 Said homosexuality has no place in America. Then he took down the tweet and 93 00:08:32,789 --> 00:08:35,650 blamed it on a staffer. Like real men do. 94 00:08:37,549 --> 00:08:42,770 But this is a serious thing that is going on. 95 00:08:43,150 --> 00:08:46,470 Acceptance of same -sex marriage is way down among Republicans. 96 00:08:46,810 --> 00:08:49,610 Oh, they still want the gay sex part, just not the marriage part. 97 00:08:50,230 --> 00:08:51,770 All right, we've got a great show. 98 00:08:52,350 --> 00:08:57,850 Ambassador Susan Rice and Senator Chris Murphy are here. But first up, okay, he 99 00:08:57,850 --> 00:09:01,870 was the 48th Vice President of the United States. His new book is called 100 00:09:01,870 --> 00:09:05,530 Conservatives Believe, Rediscovering the Conservative Conscious. How about it 101 00:09:05,530 --> 00:09:06,870 for Vice President Mike Pence? 102 00:09:08,950 --> 00:09:10,650 Look at that. 103 00:09:11,290 --> 00:09:18,050 Mike, look at that. You've got a nice applause and a standing ovation here 104 00:09:18,050 --> 00:09:19,210 the left -wing lunatics. 105 00:09:23,470 --> 00:09:27,530 We have the nicest crowd in all of television. Thank you very much. Yeah, 106 00:09:27,530 --> 00:09:32,130 because they're willing to listen to anybody, and so am I. And I'm sure lots 107 00:09:32,130 --> 00:09:38,890 people said to you, why are you going on that crazy atheist show? More than a 108 00:09:38,890 --> 00:09:42,970 few. More than a few. But that's why I so appreciate you being here. I'm glad 109 00:09:42,970 --> 00:09:47,550 be here. I'm glad you're here because I think, you know, we can say to each 110 00:09:47,550 --> 00:09:49,270 other we don't agree on a lot of stuff. 111 00:09:49,490 --> 00:09:51,090 But I know there are ways. 112 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,120 You've said to my staff, Israel and stuff, you think I'm not all bad. 113 00:09:55,700 --> 00:09:59,660 Anybody who did what you did on January 6th can't be all bad. 114 00:10:03,460 --> 00:10:08,300 And I 115 00:10:08,300 --> 00:10:14,500 think we have a lot in common. Like we both know, it's kind of hard to stay 116 00:10:14,500 --> 00:10:15,520 friends with Donald Trump. 117 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,040 Are you ever in contact with him these days? 118 00:10:24,540 --> 00:10:28,860 Well, you know, it's been a while since we spoke. You never just call him? 119 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,660 You've actually spent more time with him recently than I have. 120 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:39,940 But, no, I love how you started the show, and I really want to commend you 121 00:10:39,940 --> 00:10:44,420 the way you carry yourself. I really see you as an honest broker. 122 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,360 I try to be. Speak your mind. 123 00:10:46,900 --> 00:10:47,900 It's hard. 124 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:50,160 I try to. I really do. 125 00:10:52,330 --> 00:10:56,090 I've always said, you know, I'm a conservative, but I'm not in a bad mood 126 00:10:56,090 --> 00:11:01,350 it. And you've always struck me as a liberal that's not in a bad mood either. 127 00:11:01,490 --> 00:11:05,130 No, no, no. I want to talk to everybody. My little line is, everybody's a 128 00:11:05,130 --> 00:11:06,350 monster until you talk to them. 129 00:11:06,790 --> 00:11:11,990 Just talk to them a little bit. I really do believe it's a key to our country 130 00:11:11,990 --> 00:11:16,810 right now. In fact, I don't know if I mentioned that I just wrote a book. I'm 131 00:11:16,810 --> 00:11:18,150 just about to bring it up. 132 00:11:19,170 --> 00:11:20,430 Just about to bring it up. 133 00:11:21,290 --> 00:11:27,350 In the book, I actually, I really believe that democracy depends on heavy 134 00:11:27,350 --> 00:11:28,350 of civility. 135 00:11:28,530 --> 00:11:32,610 And I think the American people long for us to restore a threshold of civility. 136 00:11:33,690 --> 00:11:34,730 And I write about it. 137 00:11:35,010 --> 00:11:40,190 No, I mean, the book, the book. And your column today in the Washington Post, 138 00:11:40,410 --> 00:11:44,930 the theme is that we are at a crossroads in America. I mean, you are a 139 00:11:44,930 --> 00:11:49,410 traditional old school Republican conservative and you see this country 140 00:11:49,410 --> 00:11:50,630 moved to a different place. 141 00:11:52,180 --> 00:11:57,280 Populism, you put in contrast to traditional conservatism. Now, when you 142 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,120 populism, we all think, and rightly so, that means Donald Trump. 143 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,700 So you're saying we've gone off track, and you're basically saying the person 144 00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:09,020 who took us off track is Donald Trump. Do I have that right? 145 00:12:09,260 --> 00:12:14,320 Well, I don't think entirely, Bill, in all fairness. Look, for the last five 146 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,800 decades, the Republican Party, you might be surprised to learn I was a young 147 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,100 Democrat. I am. When I joined the Republican Party. What? 148 00:12:22,380 --> 00:12:24,240 When Ronald Reagan came to the White House. 149 00:12:24,650 --> 00:12:26,750 You were a Democrat. I was a young Democrat. 150 00:12:27,210 --> 00:12:32,410 But I listened to Ronald Reagan. I heard about the ideals of a strong defense of 151 00:12:32,410 --> 00:12:34,270 limited government, traditional values. 152 00:12:34,470 --> 00:12:38,610 And I joined the Reagan Revolution. And for 50 years, the Republican Party has 153 00:12:38,610 --> 00:12:41,330 been defined by those conservative principles. 154 00:12:41,650 --> 00:12:48,110 We principally did political combat with the liberal Democratic Party. But 155 00:12:48,110 --> 00:12:51,550 as you will concede, the Democratic Party itself. 156 00:12:52,620 --> 00:12:56,860 has slid farther to the left, the progressive left, even embracing 157 00:12:57,380 --> 00:13:02,500 lifting up... Believe me, I have the battle scars for pointing it out. Well, 158 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:04,280 look, I want to move against it. 159 00:13:07,460 --> 00:13:11,920 I mean, the progressives on the far left are questioning our support for 160 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,640 traditional allies, even Israel, our most cherished ally. 161 00:13:15,530 --> 00:13:19,830 But what I wrote the book about is that in addition to the context with the ever 162 00:13:19,830 --> 00:13:26,410 more left -wing, radical Democratic Party now in America, conservatives 163 00:13:26,410 --> 00:13:31,230 to know that I think there is a new threat to our movement from the populist 164 00:13:31,230 --> 00:13:36,290 right that would question our role as leader of the free world, that would 165 00:13:36,290 --> 00:13:40,450 embrace big government solutions, including broad -based tariffs, price 166 00:13:40,450 --> 00:13:41,450 controls. 167 00:13:42,100 --> 00:13:43,760 nationalizing American businesses. 168 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,880 I heard Elizabeth Warren, when the Trump administration announced they were 169 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,540 nationalizing American businesses, Elizabeth Warren said, I think Donald 170 00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:55,160 came across an idea that I came up with years ago. 171 00:13:55,700 --> 00:14:02,220 And actually, Bill, that nationalizing private enterprise is an idea 172 00:14:02,220 --> 00:14:08,060 that... Karl Marx came up with years ago. But that and marginalizing 173 00:14:08,060 --> 00:14:09,740 values like the right to life. 174 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:15,320 I just want people to know that while the Trump administration has gotten a 175 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:20,060 right, secured the border, extended tax cuts. And by the way, I said that to him 176 00:14:20,060 --> 00:14:24,760 on the show. You have to agree with him 100 % or he hates you. 177 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,760 I agree. 178 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,400 And there is such a thing as Trump derangement syndrome. 179 00:14:31,850 --> 00:14:36,010 You know, people who just hate everything, he could cure cancer 180 00:14:36,290 --> 00:14:39,390 And there were people who would hate it just because he did it. I agree the 181 00:14:39,390 --> 00:14:40,650 border needed to be fixed. 182 00:14:41,110 --> 00:14:43,270 The tax cuts were extended. 183 00:14:43,570 --> 00:14:50,310 Well, I don't know about that one. In the wake of October 7th, the 184 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:56,330 way candidate Trump and President Trump had stood without apology for Israel and 185 00:14:56,330 --> 00:14:58,350 finally been the first president in history. 186 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,560 He paid the fight directly to Iran last year and this year. And he'll be 187 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,980 commended. I know. And I have commended him. The problem is that he does other 188 00:15:08,980 --> 00:15:10,240 things that are not good. 189 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,520 And I will not stop talking about those. 190 00:15:14,900 --> 00:15:17,720 Doge. The corruption. 191 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,280 The revenge. 192 00:15:20,250 --> 00:15:27,190 path that he's on not conceding elections these are just the top five i 193 00:15:27,190 --> 00:15:33,070 feel like so i'm sorry but that's how i feel and i feel like the democrats 194 00:15:33,070 --> 00:15:37,450 finally have an issue with this corruption i mean there's a senator john 195 00:15:37,450 --> 00:15:41,570 and the democratic party who said that the today's republicans apropos to your 196 00:15:41,570 --> 00:15:46,810 thing about populism he says they are the elites they pretend to hate you 197 00:15:46,810 --> 00:15:53,490 with that Well, I do think that this populist right that's coming up within 198 00:15:53,490 --> 00:15:59,030 our movement really questions the foundations of conservatism in America. 199 00:15:59,030 --> 00:16:03,510 why I wrote the book, What Conservatives Believe, because I really want to begin 200 00:16:03,510 --> 00:16:08,190 a conversation about the future of our movement. Look, we're going to have a 201 00:16:08,190 --> 00:16:12,850 standard bearer in 2028, candidates coming up in 2026. 202 00:16:14,020 --> 00:16:18,140 But I tell people it's going to be more important for the people in our party to 203 00:16:18,140 --> 00:16:21,420 talk about what we're for before we talk about who we're for. 204 00:16:21,620 --> 00:16:27,040 And I want the Republican Party to stay grounded in those traditional values. 205 00:16:30,940 --> 00:16:35,920 But how about beginning with saying to the guy who keeps saying, there are ways 206 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,920 you could do it, and I'm talking about Donald Trump. 207 00:16:38,330 --> 00:16:39,330 Because that's what he says. 208 00:16:39,470 --> 00:16:45,090 Yeah. He does not... It's just insane to me to absolutely say, you can't run... 209 00:16:45,090 --> 00:16:48,610 It's just plainly in the Constitution. Your book is a lot about what's in the 210 00:16:48,610 --> 00:16:52,630 Constitution and following that. And there's nothing more plainer than, you 211 00:16:52,630 --> 00:16:54,370 two terms, not three. 212 00:16:54,630 --> 00:16:55,630 Right. 213 00:16:55,890 --> 00:17:02,790 So... I mean, it seems like we could... So many of the things we could 214 00:17:02,790 --> 00:17:07,369 come to some agreement with the middle, like January 6th. Like, Trump, pardon 215 00:17:07,369 --> 00:17:11,750 everybody. Could we say that, yes, some people were there just for reasons of 216 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:14,990 who knows? They weren't exactly tourists, but they weren't having 217 00:17:14,990 --> 00:17:20,270 intent. Other people, can we say some bad people were there, like the ones who 218 00:17:20,270 --> 00:17:21,270 wanted to hang you? 219 00:17:21,530 --> 00:17:23,270 Can we say those were bad people? 220 00:17:25,569 --> 00:17:30,950 Bill, I made it clear. I had no problem with the president pardoning people who 221 00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:35,510 got caught up in that day. But for anyone who assaulted a police officer. 222 00:17:35,820 --> 00:17:40,160 Anybody that violated and vandalized the seat of our government and sought to 223 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,380 disrupt the counting of electoral college votes, those people never should 224 00:17:44,380 --> 00:17:46,480 been pardoned, and they should never get a dime. 225 00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:55,040 No ill feelings about the hanging thing. 226 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,120 Did you ever fear for your life? 227 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:04,560 Did you actually fear that they would... 228 00:18:04,780 --> 00:18:10,280 that could happen. Well, to be honest with you, I never felt a greater sense 229 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,080 resolve any day in my life than on January 6th. 230 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,160 You know, I've often told my kids the safest place in the world is to be in 231 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,160 center of God's will. 232 00:18:21,780 --> 00:18:26,080 And I really knew I was where I was supposed to be doing what I was supposed 233 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:26,939 be doing. 234 00:18:26,940 --> 00:18:31,200 And under the Constitution, the Vice President's role is only to preside over 235 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,200 session. 236 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,360 Of Congress, where the Electoral College votes are opened and counted. That's 237 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:42,920 it. And no vice president in history had ever asserted any authority to decide 238 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,500 what votes to count or send back to the states. 239 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:50,440 So I knew my duty was clear, and I'll always believe by God's grace I did my 240 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:51,440 duty. 241 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:00,420 And I know as a person of faith, because I know a lot of people of faith, they 242 00:19:00,420 --> 00:19:03,910 say, They think if they die, they'll be in a better place. 243 00:19:04,470 --> 00:19:06,570 So maybe if they hung you, good thing. 244 00:19:09,670 --> 00:19:11,650 Last issue. 245 00:19:13,450 --> 00:19:14,450 Abortion. 246 00:19:14,670 --> 00:19:16,650 Now, this is one we'll never quite agree on. 247 00:19:17,230 --> 00:19:19,230 But I get it. 248 00:19:19,630 --> 00:19:22,490 I get your side of it. You know, I always have. 249 00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:26,870 Some people don't like that about me. I'm pro -choice, but I understand. It is 250 00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:28,630 becoming a life, and we're just... 251 00:19:28,940 --> 00:19:30,500 killing it before it can fight back. 252 00:19:30,940 --> 00:19:32,200 I'm just okay with that. 253 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,300 Now we find out, even after Roe v. 254 00:19:36,780 --> 00:19:42,640 Wade was overturned, abortion has increased in these, I guess, across the 255 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,200 country because they don't do it by having to go to a clinic. You get a pill 256 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,200 over the mail. 257 00:19:47,380 --> 00:19:51,060 Should we outlaw these pills? Is that where you are in this issue? Well, I 258 00:19:51,060 --> 00:19:53,720 really believe it's one example where we've seen... 259 00:19:54,270 --> 00:19:57,830 The Trump administration depart from that conservative agenda. 260 00:19:58,150 --> 00:20:02,510 I mean, I couldn't be more proud that our administration appointed three of 261 00:20:02,510 --> 00:20:06,130 justices that sent Roe versus Wade to the ash heap of history where it 262 00:20:07,050 --> 00:20:11,150 But since that time, as you said, Bill, abortion after the Biden administration. 263 00:20:12,439 --> 00:20:17,880 essentially approved mail -order abortion, no doctor supervision, with a 264 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,360 that's actually done great harm to many women around the country, as well as 265 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:23,920 claimed unborn lives. 266 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,440 It's been a disappointment to me and other pro -lifers that this 267 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,860 has turned a blind eye to that issue entirely. 268 00:20:32,140 --> 00:20:34,860 In fact, appointing an abortion rights supporter. 269 00:20:35,620 --> 00:20:38,780 to lead the Health and Human Services Department. 270 00:20:39,020 --> 00:20:44,300 So it was part of the impetus for me writing what conservatives believe, 271 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:47,080 I really do believe that at the end of the day. 272 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,040 The Republican Party ought to offer a choice, not an echo. 273 00:20:52,620 --> 00:20:56,800 Look, I never begrudge anybody, you included, of having liberal views. 274 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,820 That's what America is all about. You can believe what you believe. I'll 275 00:21:00,820 --> 00:21:05,160 what I believe. And as long as we conduct each other with the golden rule, 276 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,260 find our way forward as a country. I feel like you are the standard for me. 277 00:21:09,380 --> 00:21:14,060 Because I, like all the people, challenged myself. 278 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,780 And be friendly with. You were probably as far on the other side as me. And I 279 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:24,820 hope we can keep that up. I want you to do Club Random, my podcast, and get 280 00:21:24,820 --> 00:21:26,620 super high with me. Would you do that? 281 00:21:27,020 --> 00:21:28,400 We'll just kick it. 282 00:21:29,460 --> 00:21:32,560 I'll do the podcast. We'll think about it. All right. Thank you. Mike Pence, 283 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,040 everybody. Thank you, Mr. Vice President. 284 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,760 And good luck with the book. All right. Let's read our panel. 285 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:45,360 See? 286 00:21:45,770 --> 00:21:47,190 I'm friends with everybody. 287 00:21:47,490 --> 00:21:49,630 All right. 288 00:21:50,050 --> 00:21:53,690 Here's a Democratic senator from Connecticut and author of the book 289 00:21:53,690 --> 00:21:56,810 the Common Good, The Fight for Meaning and Connection in a Broken America, 290 00:21:57,070 --> 00:21:58,070 Senator Chris Murphy. 291 00:22:01,350 --> 00:22:06,190 And she served under three presidents, including as U .S. Ambassador to the U 292 00:22:06,190 --> 00:22:10,170 .N., National Security Advisor, and Director of the Domestic Policy Council, 293 00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:12,370 Ambassador Susan Rice. Thank you. 294 00:22:17,290 --> 00:22:19,830 Okay. Now let's hear from the Democratic side. 295 00:22:20,050 --> 00:22:24,430 Now, we're a couple of weeks away, three weeks away from our 250th anniversary. 296 00:22:25,410 --> 00:22:29,090 I don't know if you're getting all the emails from people in the media asking 297 00:22:29,090 --> 00:22:33,010 your comments. And what do you think is the most? I am. I bet you people like 298 00:22:33,010 --> 00:22:33,669 you are. 299 00:22:33,670 --> 00:22:37,210 What is your big takeaway? What made America work? 300 00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:39,010 My answer is balance. 301 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,740 That was the genius of the Constitution, three branches of government that kept 302 00:22:43,740 --> 00:22:46,320 each one in check. That was what was new. 303 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,720 That's what we've lost, I feel. 304 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,400 Now the headlines this week are all about the Republicans are maybe going to 305 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:58,140 restore that. I've heard this before, but we do hear rumblings from lots of 306 00:22:58,140 --> 00:23:03,100 Republicans in ways we haven't before. Last week it was all about the slush 307 00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:08,040 fund, and we heard people saying, stupid, I'm talking, using stupid, Trump 308 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,900 being stupid, and it's a slush fund. This week it's about Bill Pulte, who he 309 00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:16,720 tried to, or he didn't try, he is the director of national intelligence now. 310 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,300 John Thune says we don't. need a weaponized DNI. 311 00:23:21,540 --> 00:23:23,960 What's going on here? Is this real, this time? 312 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:29,280 Is it that they smell blood? That Trump is going to be, after the midterms, 313 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,860 maybe a lame duck? They see his ratings are low? 314 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,160 What's up? 315 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:39,480 I don't think it's real. I mean, I just watched in the last 24 hours after they 316 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,800 made a whole bunch of noise about this slush fund, they said they weren't going 317 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:47,020 to give him his number one priority, this immigration bill that he wanted, if 318 00:23:47,020 --> 00:23:49,320 didn't do away with the slush fund. 319 00:23:50,060 --> 00:23:54,120 He's said openly that he's... Still thinking about it. They had an 320 00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:57,760 last night in the Senate to adopt an amendment that would have made it 321 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,760 completely illegal. 322 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,680 Only a handful of Republicans voted for it. I think there's only one rule in the 323 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,560 Republican Party and it still holds. He gets anything that he wants. It's true. 324 00:24:06,660 --> 00:24:10,260 They're starting to make more noise right now as they get closer to the 325 00:24:10,260 --> 00:24:11,620 election. And I think that. 326 00:24:11,930 --> 00:24:15,550 They think that that will have some electoral benefit, making more noise. 327 00:24:15,550 --> 00:24:19,530 until they actually start voting against him, voting to end this war, voting to 328 00:24:19,530 --> 00:24:23,870 tie his hands so that he can't set up personal political slush funds, I just 329 00:24:23,870 --> 00:24:26,810 don't know that for our democracy the noise matters that much. 330 00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:36,650 They apparently did have some big screaming match with each other last 331 00:24:38,220 --> 00:24:44,460 Yeah, and then what happened last night? They delivered him the vote to pass his 332 00:24:44,460 --> 00:24:48,260 immigration bill without any amendment that would stop the slush fund from 333 00:24:48,260 --> 00:24:51,360 forward. Listen, I'm with you. I'm rooting for them to break from him. I 334 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:53,540 haven't seen it yet. I'd like to see balance restored. 335 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:59,260 Yes. I think that one interesting test of that will be how the Republicans 336 00:24:59,260 --> 00:25:00,640 respond to Bill Pulte. 337 00:25:01,070 --> 00:25:05,790 Because he is now going to be the acting director of national intelligence. Here 338 00:25:05,790 --> 00:25:11,690 is somebody that has literally no national security and no intelligence 339 00:25:11,690 --> 00:25:18,670 experience. The statute says that's required by law in the DNI. He has never 340 00:25:18,670 --> 00:25:19,670 a security clearance. 341 00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:21,730 He's never touched classified material. 342 00:25:21,970 --> 00:25:22,970 Who is he? 343 00:25:22,990 --> 00:25:25,430 He's a housing... 344 00:25:26,580 --> 00:25:33,460 financier and the scion of a fancy business family. And then he went to the 345 00:25:33,460 --> 00:25:40,260 FHFA and has apparently used that perch as a way 346 00:25:40,260 --> 00:25:46,920 to operationalize the president's effort to go after some of his adversaries. So 347 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:52,600 I think that kind of character with the mission that the president has overtly 348 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,499 given him. 349 00:25:53,500 --> 00:26:00,140 To go in there and, you know, find evidence of rigged elections and to go 350 00:26:00,140 --> 00:26:05,100 people within the intelligence community who are longstanding experts and rid 351 00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:09,760 them of the place, that's quite worrying. And I think if we care deeply 352 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,420 our national security, which we must, at a time when we're dealing with Russia 353 00:26:13,420 --> 00:26:19,200 and China and Iran and terrorists, we need somebody as director of national 354 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,620 intelligence. I do remember when we created that bureaucracy. 355 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,080 I do remember when we created that bureaucracy after 9 -11. 356 00:26:29,380 --> 00:26:32,120 A lot of people on the left said, what are we doing? 357 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,720 Why? Why do we need it? I remember my joke was, if only we had some sort of 358 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:44,720 central intelligence agency, which is now one of the 18 agencies under 359 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,180 the DNI. It just seemed like another layer of bureaucracy we didn't need. 360 00:26:49,180 --> 00:26:53,450 we don't. Well, no, I do think we do, and it's not perfect, believe me. We've 361 00:26:53,450 --> 00:26:57,890 both dealt with the intelligence community and its complexities. But the 362 00:26:57,890 --> 00:27:02,110 why after 9 -11 that concept made sense was what we discovered when we did the 363 00:27:02,110 --> 00:27:07,990 look -back on 9 -11 was stovepipes between the FBI and the CIA and other 364 00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:10,130 of the intelligence community weren't sharing information. 365 00:27:10,690 --> 00:27:12,950 Is the FBI under the DNI? Yes. 366 00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:15,390 So they all are. Yes. And it works. 367 00:27:15,650 --> 00:27:19,110 Well, it works better than not having a DNI, I think. Right, okay. 368 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,900 I mean, listen, Pulte's qualification, 369 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,320 according to Donald Trump, is that he is going to be willing to go into the 370 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,200 intelligence files and pull out information on Trump. 371 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,620 Political opponents. I mean, that's the only reason this guy got picked, because 372 00:27:33,620 --> 00:27:37,620 he did it at the housing agency, and now he's going to do it at Intel. 373 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,320 That's the key. That's the key. That's the only reason that Pelosi is being 374 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,400 nominated for this position. And even if he only stays on the job for a couple 375 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,480 weeks, that's enough time for him to go in and stitch out information on a whole 376 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,960 bunch of people that Trump is trying to destroy. 377 00:27:50,260 --> 00:27:52,080 Okay. Let me ask you another issue. 378 00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:57,760 There is something called the Great American State Fair Festival that was 379 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:03,320 planned. Now, this is not the same thing as the UFC event on the White House 380 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,320 lawn. 381 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,980 Don't get that. Or the race car track going around the city. 382 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:13,120 Yes, but there's lots of exciting stuff in Washington going on. 383 00:28:13,930 --> 00:28:17,830 No, the UFC thing. Look, we have a redneck president. I'm sorry. We're just 384 00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:19,530 going to have to get you. From Manhattan. 385 00:28:20,270 --> 00:28:21,270 From Manhattan. 386 00:28:21,330 --> 00:28:23,770 A redneck from Manhattan. He just does redneck things. Okay. 387 00:28:24,410 --> 00:28:26,310 This is one of the things I don't give a shit about. 388 00:28:26,770 --> 00:28:32,610 But this other thing was not planned as a specific Trump thing or a specific 389 00:28:32,610 --> 00:28:37,570 MAGA thing. And they had some acts lined up. Not the greatest. The Commodores. 390 00:28:38,390 --> 00:28:40,830 Morris Day and The Time. They were pretty good. 391 00:28:41,630 --> 00:28:44,730 Commodores were good in the day. Very good. Very. Yes, that's true. That's 392 00:28:44,730 --> 00:28:46,130 Lionel Richie, right? Yeah. Okay. 393 00:28:46,690 --> 00:28:48,350 Well, he's not with them anymore. Okay. 394 00:28:50,930 --> 00:28:57,090 Martina McBride, Bret Michaels, Young MC, C Music Factory, Milli Vanilli. I 395 00:28:57,090 --> 00:29:01,230 would not have left them on. I think it was just Vanilli. 396 00:29:01,610 --> 00:29:02,850 Right. Yes. It was just. 397 00:29:03,790 --> 00:29:07,050 Right. Right. Because the other one was discredited for lip syncing. Right. 398 00:29:07,070 --> 00:29:08,070 Right. 399 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,100 I think these people, they all pulled out. 400 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,360 This is a question about what looks best for the Democrats, because I don't 401 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,360 think that looks good. 402 00:29:20,540 --> 00:29:24,560 It looks like you are just what people say about you. You don't really love 403 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,680 America. It looks like you think Trump is more important than the country 404 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,200 itself. Now it's just a big MAGA rally, this whole thing, because they all 405 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,560 pulled out. So now it's just Trump and Lee Greenwood. 406 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,460 Wouldn't it have been better to play this gig? 407 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,740 It's a month -long gig. Lots of people, like, just celebrating America. Can't we 408 00:29:46,740 --> 00:29:50,240 all just celebrate America itself and leave Trump out of it? 409 00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:59,140 And listen, my kids are excited about the D .C. race, right? Like, I mean, 410 00:29:59,140 --> 00:30:00,119 is stuff. 411 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,500 Obviously, a ton of people love the UFC. There's going to be people that are 412 00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:07,900 excited about this. But here's what happened. There was a nonpartisan, 413 00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:11,740 apolitical effort to celebrate America's 250th anniversary. 414 00:30:12,180 --> 00:30:16,300 And instead of just letting that effort go forward, Donald Trump took it over, 415 00:30:16,380 --> 00:30:18,000 right, to create a parallel. 416 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,920 set of events my understanding is these artists thought that they were going to 417 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,280 the nonpartisan effort and then when they found out that it was just a 418 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,540 to a Trump rally, they didn't want to be part of it. I think this would have 419 00:30:31,540 --> 00:30:35,560 been a lot better for the country if Trump had decided to just let 420 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,000 professionals, let people who just care about celebrating America with no 421 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,660 political agenda be part of this. I agree, there's no reason to overly 422 00:30:42,660 --> 00:30:46,720 politicize this, but Trump decided to politicize it by essentially shutting 423 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,360 the citizens who were leading it and turning it into a big MAGA event. 424 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,400 What about the bigger, bigger hero? 425 00:30:55,230 --> 00:31:00,870 There is a pride month, but a different kind of pride, pride in the country. 426 00:31:00,950 --> 00:31:02,410 There's a big pride gap. 427 00:31:02,670 --> 00:31:08,430 Like 38 % of Americans report feeling proud. That's not a lot. But it's only 428 00:31:08,430 --> 00:31:11,270 % Democrats, 68 % Republicans. 429 00:31:12,110 --> 00:31:18,490 Should Democrats feel prouder of this country and show it both really and 430 00:31:18,490 --> 00:31:19,490 politically? 431 00:31:19,890 --> 00:31:23,230 I mean, you're talking to two people who served their country for most of their 432 00:31:23,230 --> 00:31:29,550 careers. So I... I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about... I care deeply 433 00:31:29,550 --> 00:31:33,490 about our country, and I'm very proud of it, but I also think that we're in a 434 00:31:33,490 --> 00:31:35,110 difficult spot, and we need to do better. 435 00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:44,330 This is part of the reason I wrote this book about the common good, because 436 00:31:44,330 --> 00:31:48,310 there's actually a lot more agreement out there in America than you think 437 00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:50,410 what's wrong and what needs to be fixed. 438 00:31:50,690 --> 00:31:54,390 People want healthier small towns and neighborhoods. 439 00:31:54,730 --> 00:31:58,370 They do think that capitalism has been corrupted. They want the technology 440 00:31:58,370 --> 00:32:00,010 regulated to save their kids. 441 00:32:00,370 --> 00:32:03,930 We've been fighting on the same issues year after year after year. They're 442 00:32:03,930 --> 00:32:05,250 important issues, but they're kind of... 443 00:32:05,610 --> 00:32:08,830 stuck in political gelatin from guns to climate change. 444 00:32:09,090 --> 00:32:13,430 But there is a set of things that makes the economy more fair, that makes the 445 00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:17,370 technology less poisonous, that makes your local downtown healthier, that are 446 00:32:17,370 --> 00:32:21,790 actually things that unite left and right, an agenda about the common good. 447 00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:27,210 And my hope is that this 250th celebration doesn't become just about 448 00:32:27,210 --> 00:32:30,610 differences between Republicans and Democrats, but maybe causes us to 449 00:32:30,610 --> 00:32:34,090 that there are actually some things that could make us feel better about our 450 00:32:34,090 --> 00:32:37,440 lives. that have nothing to do with left or right and can bring us together. 451 00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:47,640 You also, I noticed, have pulled back on the idea of litmus tests. 452 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,740 That's kind of a big theme for you now. I mean, you're talking about the gun 453 00:32:51,740 --> 00:32:57,000 issue, which you were more associated with than anybody, and you're saying now 454 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,360 that went too far. 455 00:32:58,740 --> 00:33:00,320 Yeah, well, I want a big... 456 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:06,040 tense for the Democratic Party. And I do think that we have lost the chair vote 457 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,600 because we've been really judgmental about people who don't line up with us 458 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,220 all of our litmus test issues. 459 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,380 I also think we should be in the business of convergence, like converting 460 00:33:15,380 --> 00:33:19,560 people, like trying to convince them that maybe they're wrong about... 461 00:33:19,930 --> 00:33:23,430 Drag shows being the biggest threat that is presented to this country. And I 462 00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:27,190 don't think you ever get to be in a conversation with somebody if you tell 463 00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:30,830 that they can't be a part of your party or they can't get nominated unless they 464 00:33:30,830 --> 00:33:31,830 line up with you on. 465 00:33:32,190 --> 00:33:34,050 A, B, C, D, and E issues. 466 00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:38,630 So we don't talk to Trump's base very often. We don't even give ourselves a 467 00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:42,530 chance to say, hey, if you think the economy is rigged, just come and listen 468 00:33:42,530 --> 00:33:46,790 us a little bit about our ideas. I want to build a bigger tent party, and I 469 00:33:46,790 --> 00:33:51,210 think that in doing that, you might actually have the ability to reach into 470 00:33:51,210 --> 00:33:55,350 of the folks that are solid members of his base and convince them that he's 471 00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:56,450 really a populist fraud. 472 00:33:56,810 --> 00:34:00,170 He's vulnerable now, don't you think, for that? 473 00:34:05,290 --> 00:34:10,429 I would just add that, you know, in the current context, the most important 474 00:34:10,429 --> 00:34:14,310 thing I think we need is, you use the term big tent, and I think that's 475 00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:19,350 absolutely right. We need a coalition of Americans of all political persuasions 476 00:34:19,350 --> 00:34:24,750 who, in my view, believe in three fundamental things, the Constitution, 477 00:34:24,750 --> 00:34:28,370 of law, and the animating principle of this country that we're all created 478 00:34:28,370 --> 00:34:29,370 equal. 479 00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:33,750 Everybody. 480 00:34:34,110 --> 00:34:38,110 Who can subscribe to that, I think, you know, belongs in the biggest possible 481 00:34:38,110 --> 00:34:39,110 tent we can create. 482 00:34:39,949 --> 00:34:43,250 Is this tent big enough for this Graham Platner guy? 483 00:34:43,610 --> 00:34:50,250 I must say, I don't want to make any judgments because I'm just learning who 484 00:34:50,250 --> 00:34:52,949 is. And unfortunately, so is he, apparently. 485 00:34:53,590 --> 00:34:57,310 I mean, this is a new kind of guy. 486 00:34:57,610 --> 00:35:01,820 And it's not just... in the Democrats, people who, like, if you look at their 487 00:35:01,820 --> 00:35:06,140 history, you could find things that make them look very conservative, like a 488 00:35:06,140 --> 00:35:07,140 Nazi tattoo. 489 00:35:08,820 --> 00:35:12,040 What I would, in the past, have associated with the conservatives. 490 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,200 And then there's things that, you know, he's also flirted with communism, and 491 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:22,540 now he's got a sex scandal, which in the past has been just something that 492 00:35:22,540 --> 00:35:27,400 absolutely made somebody... toxic in the Democratic Party, unlike in the 493 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,920 Republican Party, where they don't care at all. 494 00:35:32,140 --> 00:35:33,340 What about this one? 495 00:35:33,580 --> 00:35:36,600 What have you been reading about Mr. Plattner, and what do you think they 496 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,600 do? Because if he wins, they think they're going to get the Senate, so it's 497 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,660 very key seat. 498 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,620 Yeah, I mean, this is going to be a complicated race. 499 00:35:44,540 --> 00:35:45,660 He is... 500 00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:47,720 He's made a lot of mistakes. 501 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,580 He's been pretty clear about it from the outset. 502 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,680 He's built a pretty big movement in Maine because people like his ideas. 503 00:35:55,060 --> 00:35:59,740 On the other side, you've got Susan Collins, who just last night cast one of 504 00:35:59,740 --> 00:36:05,300 deciding votes to give $70 billion to Trump's secret police. That's a 505 00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:06,520 issue as well. 506 00:36:06,740 --> 00:36:12,700 So I think you're seeing more candidates run today that don't have perfectly 507 00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:18,590 clean. personal histories and the question in maine is going to be um is 508 00:36:18,590 --> 00:36:23,550 bridge too far or are his ideas what do you say you're in the senate well i 509 00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:28,190 think he's the clear i think he's the clear choice there um but you say nazi 510 00:36:28,190 --> 00:36:29,710 schmatzi and then texting 511 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,160 I'm just asking. 512 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,240 Maybe that's the right answer. Yeah, like I said, I think this is a super 513 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:39,560 complicated race, but I think the choice here is between the incumbent, who has 514 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,180 enabled Trump's corruption, and Graham Platner, very imperfect, but who has 515 00:36:44,180 --> 00:36:47,080 fought and put his life on the line for this country, which is not something 516 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,280 that's insignificant. No, it's not. And I do think it's a different country. 517 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,660 It's a broken country. It's full of broken people. 518 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,740 with bad information on both sides. And I think people just go, he's pissed. I 519 00:36:59,740 --> 00:37:00,519 get that. 520 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,840 Yeah, and his last set of allegations are serious allegations that he's going 521 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,200 have to talk about with the people of Maine, and they're ultimately going to 522 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,540 make that decision. 523 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,720 But that will be their decision to make. 524 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,100 Okay. Graham Plattner, any thoughts? 525 00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:19,540 I remember when a tan suit was a scandal. 526 00:37:21,180 --> 00:37:22,180 I think so. 527 00:37:23,319 --> 00:37:24,980 Holding the coffee, remember that? 528 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,580 He had a cup of coffee when he saluted. 529 00:37:28,780 --> 00:37:29,780 See, 530 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,480 whatever it was, he was holding a cup. I know, things have changed a lot. 531 00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:38,020 Let's talk about Iran, because I'm never going to get anybody here on this show 532 00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:41,420 who knows more about it than you, because you were very instrumental in 533 00:37:41,420 --> 00:37:42,660 original Iran deal. 534 00:37:43,820 --> 00:37:44,980 I talked about that. 535 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,640 I mean, I was supportive of that deal. I remember talking about it. 536 00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:52,880 That horrible night when I had dinner with Voldemort in his castle. 537 00:37:56,340 --> 00:38:00,320 We did talk about that a lot, about the Iran deal. And I said, you know, I 538 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:05,460 thought it was worth a try to bring Iran into the family of nations. Because, 539 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,120 what, wasn't that the deal? No, but go ahead. 540 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,000 We weren't trying to bring... We were just trying to deal with their nuclear 541 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,800 program. But wasn't that the first step? 542 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,910 No. So we did never, okay, then that's the question. There was other issues 543 00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:23,570 we said, we're going to put those aside because Iran is doing a lot of bad 544 00:38:23,570 --> 00:38:27,530 things. The reason why I was supportive of this war, if he hadn't fucked it up, 545 00:38:27,550 --> 00:38:31,890 and I think we all agree now it's been fucked up, but was because I don't think 546 00:38:31,890 --> 00:38:34,910 anything in the Middle East is going to get solved until you deal with Iran. 547 00:38:35,130 --> 00:38:38,630 And it was not just the nuclear issue. It's the fact that they have been state 548 00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:39,950 -sponsored terrorists for years. 549 00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:44,610 Just all of it with Iran is just never very good. 550 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,040 Correct. Okay. 551 00:38:46,140 --> 00:38:50,600 So we put that aside for the Iran deal and said we just want to deal with the 552 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,700 nuclear. Was that right to decouple those? 553 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:58,500 Yes. Let me explain what we did and why I think it was the right thing and why I 554 00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:00,880 think, unfortunately, we're really on the wrong course right now. 555 00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:06,640 First of all, Iran, as you said absolutely correctly, poses threats on 556 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,280 dimensions. It's missile program. It's support for proxies in the region. It's 557 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,280 human rights violations. 558 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:18,880 But the way it poses a direct threat to Israel, to our allies in the region, to 559 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,380 Europe and potentially to the larger international community is if it were 560 00:39:23,380 --> 00:39:26,700 to acquire a nuclear weapon or weapons, plural. 561 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,840 And so back in 2013, we began. 562 00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:36,610 to try an effort without using force, but using economic pressure and 563 00:39:36,610 --> 00:39:40,730 that brought Iran to the negotiating table. And after two years of 564 00:39:40,730 --> 00:39:47,580 resulted in a nuclear deal that prevented Iran from building a 565 00:39:47,580 --> 00:39:48,578 nuclear weapon. 566 00:39:48,580 --> 00:39:49,920 Based on inspections? 567 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:55,180 Based on, not just inspections, based on taking 97, 98 % of their fissile 568 00:39:55,180 --> 00:39:59,560 material out of the country, shutting down their plutonium reactor, making it 569 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:04,820 impossible for them to put in place the most highly sophisticated centrifuges. 570 00:40:04,820 --> 00:40:05,900 And you know they weren't feeding? 571 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,860 We know that, we know it for two reasons. How? Two ways. One, the 572 00:40:10,860 --> 00:40:15,800 community of the United States and even Israel validated that up until 2018 573 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,440 when... The prior president pulled out. Not Israel. 574 00:40:19,780 --> 00:40:26,220 Yes. And secondly, that they were not cheating on the Iran nuclear deal. And 575 00:40:26,220 --> 00:40:32,920 secondly, the IAEA, the International Atomic Energy Agency, had 24 576 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:38,560 -7 intrusive inspections in all of Iran's nuclear facilities. So when the 577 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:43,260 States withdrew from the nuclear deal, the deal was being implemented fully. 578 00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:48,640 But even if you don't buy that... If Netanyahu thought they weren't cheating, 579 00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:52,400 why was he so adamant to get out of the deal? Because this is the right 580 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,440 question. It gets back to your original point. It wasn't just about nuclear in 581 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,080 the minds of the Israelis. 582 00:40:58,860 --> 00:41:00,880 So he was lying when he said... No, not lying. 583 00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:05,320 Well, that's what he said to me. He said, we don't believe that they're not 584 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,920 cheating. They're going to get a weapon and we've got to get it. 585 00:41:08,140 --> 00:41:12,740 And when we had a mechanism in place to prevent them from getting it, he... 586 00:41:12,990 --> 00:41:16,690 urged President Trump to get out of the deal. They got out of the deal. And what 587 00:41:16,690 --> 00:41:22,710 happened? Iran built up its arsenal. Now they have 440 kilograms of highly 588 00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:27,610 enriched uranium, up enough for 10 bombs. They have a sophisticated missile 589 00:41:27,610 --> 00:41:30,590 program. They now control the Strait of Hormuz. 590 00:41:32,050 --> 00:41:35,590 And they are tanking the global economy as a consequence. 591 00:41:36,070 --> 00:41:38,130 And what have we done? We went to war. 592 00:41:38,850 --> 00:41:40,430 And we have not... 593 00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:45,250 either dealt with the nuclear program or verifiably dealt with the missile 594 00:41:45,250 --> 00:41:50,150 program or the proxy problem. We've made it worse. It's an F .C. me on every 595 00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:55,390 level. I mean, the regime change didn't happen. Uprising didn't happen. We 596 00:41:55,390 --> 00:41:56,410 didn't get the nukes. 597 00:41:56,650 --> 00:42:01,050 We didn't even get their military, really, we found out. And we look weak. 598 00:42:01,210 --> 00:42:03,530 Correct. And now we have to go back. 599 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,420 to the negotiating table, and we're going to go back with a much weaker hand 600 00:42:08,420 --> 00:42:12,380 end up with a deal that I will be very surprised if it's nearly as good as what 601 00:42:12,380 --> 00:42:13,380 we got in 2015. 602 00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:16,060 So that's why it doesn't make sense. 603 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,280 No, it doesn't. 604 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:26,200 Every president has been briefed on the consequences of military action like 605 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:31,000 what Trump has taken. And they were all told two things. One, Iran's going to 606 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,940 close the Strait of Hormuz. It's going to shut down the global economy. And 607 00:42:33,940 --> 00:42:37,900 two... With an air campaign alone, you are not going to be able to get their 608 00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:40,440 nuclear program. You're not going to be able to get all their missiles. You're 609 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,780 not going to be able to get all their drones. 610 00:42:42,060 --> 00:42:45,460 And so that's where we're stuck with. We're stuck with the situation in which 611 00:42:45,460 --> 00:42:48,840 the strait is closed down. That was a foreseeable accident. 612 00:42:49,060 --> 00:42:53,420 And Iran believes that it's taken our best shot and survived because open 613 00:42:53,420 --> 00:42:58,900 reporting says they still have 70 percent of their missiles yet still in 614 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,080 And so, unfortunately. 615 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,060 Everybody knew that this was going to be the outcome, and maybe because 616 00:43:04,060 --> 00:43:08,100 Netanyahu convinced Trump that there was going to be a quick regime fall and a 617 00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:11,960 pro -American, pro -Israeli government taking its place, he bought into that 618 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:12,859 flawed logic. 619 00:43:12,860 --> 00:43:13,578 All right. 620 00:43:13,580 --> 00:43:14,580 Hypothetical question. 621 00:43:14,860 --> 00:43:18,780 Tomorrow, Donald Trump decides he wants to spend more time with his family. 622 00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:24,680 And he resigns. 623 00:43:25,580 --> 00:43:27,900 J .D. Vance. J .D. Vance. 624 00:43:28,900 --> 00:43:30,520 J .D. Vance is the president. 625 00:43:31,220 --> 00:43:35,740 What would the new policy toward Iran be, and what should it be? We got a new 626 00:43:35,740 --> 00:43:39,540 slate. We got a new guy who wasn't crazy about it to begin with. 627 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:40,940 What do you think it would be? 628 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:47,060 I mean, that's like speculating about speculating. I mean, who knows? No, it's 629 00:43:47,060 --> 00:43:50,480 one... But I have no idea. What should it be? If we had a new... What should it 630 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,680 be, I can answer. What new slate could we have? 631 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,120 Well, here we are now as a result of the decision that... 632 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,440 President Trump made to go to war with no good options. We've got bad options 633 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:07,840 and worse options. We either escalate the war, which is unlikely to lead to 634 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:13,780 anything better than what we have now, probably much worse, or we get into a 635 00:44:13,780 --> 00:44:18,120 negotiation with Iran, if they'll even negotiate with us, from a position of 636 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,840 weakness. where they now control the Strait of Hormuz and can dial it up and 637 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,960 down, where they have this nuclear material, where they have a greater 638 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,180 to rush to a bomb. 639 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:33,380 And we're starting from, you know, less than square one. But those are the two 640 00:44:33,380 --> 00:44:38,540 options. And whether you're J .D. Vance or Donald Trump or anybody else, that's 641 00:44:38,540 --> 00:44:42,620 the hand that has been dealt you as a result of this decision -making. 642 00:44:42,860 --> 00:44:46,140 I mean, somebody can just be explained by basic incompetence. 643 00:44:46,510 --> 00:44:49,250 Right. We have incompetent people running this war. 644 00:44:51,930 --> 00:44:54,210 And so I don't. 645 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,200 I don't think these guys can negotiate their way out of a paper bag. 646 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,520 I don't think they can negotiate a way to get the Strait open. So my feeling is 647 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,340 we need to end the war, and then it's likely going to be other players, the 648 00:45:07,340 --> 00:45:11,540 Europeans or Gulf countries, that are going to come in and find a way to get 649 00:45:11,540 --> 00:45:14,600 Strait reopened. I just don't think that these guys have the ability to do it. 650 00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:17,720 All right. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Time for Newark. 651 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,340 All right. Thank you. 652 00:45:26,210 --> 00:45:31,230 Okay, new rule. The Florida cop who pulled over a woman for distracted 653 00:45:31,470 --> 00:45:35,750 insisting he saw her holding a phone in her right hand, only to find out she 654 00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:42,430 doesn't have a right hand, but gave her a ticket anyway, 655 00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:47,670 must not be judged too harshly. Being a cop is always dangerous, and for all he 656 00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:48,970 knew, she could have been armed. 657 00:45:58,830 --> 00:46:03,670 New rule, the half dozen kids who are hospitalized in San Diego after doing 658 00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:09,110 Benadryl challenge, where they consume, yes, a large quantity of Benadryl to 659 00:46:09,110 --> 00:46:12,290 induce hallucinations, must be congratulated. 660 00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:15,550 That's six kids who won't be dying from fentanyl. 661 00:46:15,810 --> 00:46:20,350 Six kids who got it through their heads that today's designer drugs are just too 662 00:46:20,350 --> 00:46:21,670 risky and said, you know what? 663 00:46:21,970 --> 00:46:24,810 Let's party with the stuff grandma takes before a flight. 664 00:46:32,750 --> 00:46:37,050 New Rule Until 60 Minutes worked through all its behind -the -scenes turnover 665 00:46:37,050 --> 00:46:40,150 drama. They have to change their name to Give Us a Minute. 666 00:46:45,930 --> 00:46:51,330 I don't think anybody said you're fired on TV this much since The Apprentice. 667 00:46:57,090 --> 00:46:58,190 That's so funny. 668 00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:02,720 Sunday night used to be the one time of the week when families weren't fighting. 669 00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,360 One too many there. 670 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,220 New rule, whether you're about to have a fight in a movie or whether you're 671 00:47:13,220 --> 00:47:16,940 about to have a fight in a bar, everyone has to come up with a better threat 672 00:47:16,940 --> 00:47:20,700 than, I'm going to tear off your something and shove it up your 673 00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:26,600 The human body has only so many things to tear off and only so many holes to 674 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,600 shove them in. 675 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,640 Fortunately, there's a simple fix. Before you start fighting, always 676 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,000 tear them a new asshole. 677 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,500 New rule, 678 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:47,240 it's not cute anymore when someone runs a dog for mayor of some small town. 679 00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:53,140 You know, it was funny the first hundred times, but I say if you're going to do 680 00:47:53,140 --> 00:47:55,480 it again and run Max for mayor... 681 00:47:56,030 --> 00:47:58,510 You have to go all the way and put out an attack ad. 682 00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:08,750 Max wants to be your choice for mayor, but he doesn't even know how to read or 683 00:48:08,750 --> 00:48:09,750 write. 684 00:48:11,010 --> 00:48:15,750 Max claims he's a good boy, but do good boys spend their weekends eating trash? 685 00:48:17,690 --> 00:48:21,370 Isn't it time for a candidate who won't drag his ass on your new carpet? 686 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,960 I'm Tom Smith. I'm qualified to be your mayor, and Max is not, because I can't 687 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,160 stress this enough, he's a fucking dog. 688 00:48:33,620 --> 00:48:40,540 And... Finally, new rule, congratulations to all the people who 689 00:48:40,540 --> 00:48:44,680 graduated from college this month, last month, yes, it's commencement season, 690 00:48:44,860 --> 00:48:49,520 the time of year when college kids make the transition from campus life to their 691 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:50,520 parents' basement. 692 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:02,420 I just want to say congratulations, you did it. And by it, I mean had your first 693 00:49:02,420 --> 00:49:03,420 lesbian kiss. 694 00:49:04,660 --> 00:49:09,920 As for the degree you just got, that's a little more complicated. 695 00:49:10,580 --> 00:49:15,260 There was a lot of booing at the commencement ceremonies this year, which 696 00:49:15,260 --> 00:49:18,920 weird because you know how hard it is to make bombing at a graduation speech? 697 00:49:19,220 --> 00:49:22,980 All you have to do is give a little pep talk, tell a joke about college debt, 698 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,180 and lie about how anything is possible. 699 00:49:27,340 --> 00:49:30,660 But this year, speakers did not read the room. 700 00:49:30,940 --> 00:49:36,760 Hey, geniuses, maybe don't mention AI to the people whose future jobs it's about 701 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:37,760 to take. 702 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,920 Artificial intelligence is the next industrial revolution. 703 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,780 The question is whether you will help shape artificial intelligence. 704 00:49:50,340 --> 00:49:52,220 We do not know. 705 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,420 AI is rewriting production as we sit here. 706 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:11,520 I got to say, the kids are right. They're right to fear that in the age of 707 00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:16,340 that degree they're holding is about as useful as your unused miles on Spirit 708 00:50:16,340 --> 00:50:17,340 Airlines. 709 00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:26,160 And really, isn't that the big question 710 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,880 we should now be asking about education? 711 00:50:29,260 --> 00:50:34,260 Now that you can get the answer to everything by asking your phone, why are 712 00:50:34,260 --> 00:50:35,500 going to college at all? 713 00:50:36,140 --> 00:50:37,520 Anyone? Bueller? 714 00:50:37,740 --> 00:50:38,740 Anyone? 715 00:50:41,780 --> 00:50:48,640 Rahm Emanuel, who is definitely not running for president, just 716 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,820 released his five -point grand bargain plan for higher education, as private 717 00:50:53,820 --> 00:50:56,720 citizens with no political aspirations often do. 718 00:50:58,990 --> 00:51:03,210 Rom wants to make college great again, cheaper, faster, more accessible. 719 00:51:03,450 --> 00:51:08,390 It sounds exciting and looks good on a campaign website, but it's a little like 720 00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:11,150 buying manned fighter jets in the age of drones. 721 00:51:11,850 --> 00:51:18,330 As it is, only about 35 % of graduates get a job in their field of study. And 722 00:51:18,330 --> 00:51:22,050 now with AI, English major, AI can write. 723 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,620 Computer science major, AI can code. 724 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:31,300 Music major, AI already has songs on the charts. Philosophy major, AI can learn 725 00:51:31,300 --> 00:51:32,880 to write names on coffee cups. 726 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:47,240 And it's not like Collins was doing such a bang -up job before Google 727 00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:48,520 Gemini came along. 728 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:55,060 600 desperate professors from the California University System just signed 729 00:51:55,060 --> 00:51:59,200 open letter to let people know that a lot of the kids coming into their 730 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,240 classroom have to be taught middle school math. 731 00:52:02,940 --> 00:52:07,180 Sadly, today many young people cannot locate on a map the countries we're 732 00:52:07,180 --> 00:52:08,180 bombing. 733 00:52:11,220 --> 00:52:15,800 Fox News sent a reporter to the beach on Memorial Day to find out what many 734 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,420 typical young adults know. 735 00:52:20,410 --> 00:52:25,770 Nothing. Not even what the holiday means. Not who we fought against in our 736 00:52:25,770 --> 00:52:28,190 or why we fought them. World War II? 737 00:52:28,730 --> 00:52:30,810 That might have been against Vietnam. 738 00:52:33,150 --> 00:52:38,070 The level of basic shit these kids are let out of high school not knowing? 739 00:52:38,310 --> 00:52:41,450 Like the country we gained our independence from? 740 00:52:42,010 --> 00:52:43,290 Who could know that? 741 00:52:43,830 --> 00:52:45,270 Oh, they know who knows. 742 00:52:46,450 --> 00:52:47,450 Yeah. 743 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:53,860 Why bother learning with context when ChatGPT can not only just tell me the 744 00:52:53,860 --> 00:52:57,620 answer, but also compliment me for asking such an astute question? 745 00:53:02,860 --> 00:53:07,980 Yeah, that's the one thing the robots figured out early on. We're less likely 746 00:53:07,980 --> 00:53:11,160 oppose them if they're always acting like they kind of want to fuck us. 747 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,160 You know, it's so easy to get... 748 00:53:17,420 --> 00:53:22,140 Seduced by technology, I remember a teacher once scolding me for using a 749 00:53:22,140 --> 00:53:26,880 calculator, saying I should learn math because you're not always going to have 750 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,080 your calculator walking around in the real world. 751 00:53:30,380 --> 00:53:35,220 Except now I don't have to know math because I do always have a calculator 752 00:53:35,220 --> 00:53:37,000 I'm walking around in the real world. 753 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,480 So fuck you, Mr. Banderholtz. 754 00:53:50,890 --> 00:53:56,450 No. His point was not wrong. The calculator disabled a part of my brain. 755 00:53:56,690 --> 00:54:01,690 Look, we all want the good parts of AI, solving medical mysteries, figuring out 756 00:54:01,690 --> 00:54:07,390 clean energy, but the vast majority of us will never use it for that. For us, 757 00:54:07,450 --> 00:54:09,530 it's a lobotomy with a monthly fee. 758 00:54:11,390 --> 00:54:15,210 We're not using it to cure cancer. We're using it because we forgot how to make 759 00:54:15,210 --> 00:54:16,210 toast. 760 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,360 We emptied the kids' heads by letting them out of high school without knowing 761 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,820 anything. And then, what a perfect time for robots to come along and say, no 762 00:54:35,820 --> 00:54:37,260 problem, I got you. 763 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:38,900 I'm your brain now. 764 00:54:39,220 --> 00:54:44,440 That is one big, grand experiment we're running here. Can humans survive if we 765 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:49,180 completely outsource our brains to something that does all our thinking, 766 00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:51,500 Jill Biden used to do for Joe? 767 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:03,280 Fake laugh machine. 768 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,880 Now, I'm no commencement speaker. 769 00:55:09,140 --> 00:55:13,500 They wouldn't let me near that podium. But I do have a message for the 770 00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:14,580 graduates, and it's this. 771 00:55:14,820 --> 00:55:15,860 You are not wrong. 772 00:55:16,220 --> 00:55:21,540 You do face an existential issue here. But the good news is, it's one 773 00:55:21,540 --> 00:55:22,980 in your power to fix. 774 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,620 Are there issues that college students in the past faced, like ending the 775 00:55:27,620 --> 00:55:28,620 Vietnam War? 776 00:55:28,830 --> 00:55:30,770 or civil rights, or climate change. 777 00:55:30,990 --> 00:55:35,570 They all involve having to convince the older generation to do something. 778 00:55:35,870 --> 00:55:41,370 This one's all you. You are the AI generation, and you only have to 779 00:55:41,370 --> 00:55:42,370 yourself. 780 00:55:43,790 --> 00:55:47,890 I think it's great that you have this instinct to get involved and take up 781 00:55:47,890 --> 00:55:50,510 causes, and many are worthy, but get serious. 782 00:55:50,850 --> 00:55:55,230 Your issue shouldn't be Zionist or trans. 783 00:55:55,950 --> 00:56:01,070 or plastic straws. No, your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to 784 00:56:01,070 --> 00:56:04,430 for humans and make sure we're not completely replaced. 785 00:56:08,690 --> 00:56:14,830 And you can't do it if you are hopelessly dependent on the thing that's 786 00:56:14,830 --> 00:56:15,830 replacing you. 787 00:56:16,350 --> 00:56:23,250 90 % of today's college students admit they've used AI academically, and 73 % 788 00:56:23,250 --> 00:56:28,210 the faculty say they've had to deal with AI integrity issues, formerly known as 789 00:56:28,210 --> 00:56:29,210 cheating. 790 00:56:30,130 --> 00:56:32,930 Maybe the commencement speaker should be booing you. 791 00:56:34,270 --> 00:56:37,830 AI has made college one big robot. 792 00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:43,040 Circle Jerk, where students use AI to write papers and professors use AI to 793 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:43,859 grade them. 794 00:56:43,860 --> 00:56:47,840 Okay, can you see in this equation who has been completely cut out? 795 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:49,260 The humans. 796 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,200 It's the human kids. 797 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:52,700 This is your issue. 798 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,320 Fight for the humans. 799 00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:58,920 All right, that's our show. I want to thank my guest, Senator Chris Murphy, 800 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,800 former Ambassador Susan Rice, and former VP Mike Pence. 801 00:57:03,180 --> 00:57:06,660 Bob Brandon drops every Monday on YouTube, or listen wherever you get your 802 00:57:06,660 --> 00:57:08,940 podcasts. Go watch Overtime on YouTube. 803 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:10,800 Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. 804 00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:12,240 Thank you, guys.